I also wanted to comment on something that Shawn wrote on 10/30/00. I agree that the word "violence" does get thrown around a lot. In light of recent, over dramatized, coverage of school violence I suppose that it's understandable. I wonder if some people aren't just over analyzing "kids today." Perhaps games like Quake 3 Arena have replaced Cops and Robbers. Times change. To some degree, we've all played "violent" games. Remember when you were younger and your friends dared you to do something? I think some people are just over reacting.